remote wire

[aromanj]

I became the owner to a new 2004 Pontiac Grand Am. I was hooking up my system but now im a little stumped because I dont know which is the remote wire(what color is it)? Also does anyone have any suggestions for where the power wire can go from the battery to the back as far as a whole somewhere in the firewall of the car?

[1997GAGT]

Usally the remote wire is BLUE.....a remote wire hooks up to the antenna wire comming out of your deck and goes into the remote input on the amp. As far as a whole in the fire wall I have a 97 Grand am but I just went under the hood and drilled a small whole then I got under the dash and looked for where I could see day light and ran it through there(make sure you use a gromet if you drill your own whole.

Anthony

[Danmuzicman]

exactly thats what we do at bby

[1997GAGT]

Hey do some of your work at car stereo installation shops? I'm thinking about going to RITOP to get certified in July....its a hefty $5000 for two months but I really want to do it I think. Anyway for you advanced audioholics out there I have some questions. I bought a set of JL Audio XR-650 CSI components. Very nice set but I have a few questions.

1. Why does the speaker grill keep comming off? I'm not sure if the speaker blows it off like with the air it pushes out of if it comes lose when I close my doors but either way its shouldn't happen.

2. What is the proper way to sound deaden my doors? You want to put the sound deadening material on the metal of the door right? What do you reccomend is there really a big difference between the TONS of stuff out there from rockford noise killer to dynamat, brown break ect. ect?

3. I'm running my JL comps of a JL 300/4 its not possible that this amp over powers these speakers right? I mean there 25-150watts RMS and the JL is 75RMS and about 90 - 100 peak. Sometimes though they sound like there gonna blow or like there being given to much power. Is it possible that burned cd's of poor quality for ex. say maybe low bit rates 128k or something are actually bad for your speakers? Finally almost every car puts the crossovers in the door with the speaker...I was reading the JL books and it says not to because they could get wet and damadged what does everyone think of that? does closing my door hard effect them? I think I wanna get them out of there anyway and someone customize them into a pullout tray in my dash so I can change them when I wanna experiment anyway...And Ideas Fellow Grand Am owners?

Thanks,
Anthony

[matts]

well the remote wire on a stock deck is not blue. and most newer decks have a seperate remote wire and antenna wire. one will be blue the other blue w/ white stripe usually. the stock color is orange, i believe. without looking at the wiring scematic.

1. i wouldn't worry about the certification unless you were going to get into car audio installing pretty heavily. and the grille is evidently loose in some way, shape, form, or fashion. did you use the stock grille cover?

2. dynamat or a similar product.

3. well, just cause you're not giving them 200 watts don't mean you can't blow them with 75. and peak power ratings are useless, ignore them. if you have a good external crossover on them it's unlikely you'll hurt them. but if you're running them full range then you stand a chance.. and no, it's not good to put the crossovers in your door. the jarring will cause damage over time. i wouldn't make a custom pull out tray, i'd just mount them under the carpet on the kick panels.

[1997GAGT]

Hey do you work at a shop? I figured he was talking about an aftermarket deck thats why I said blue. I was thinking about getting into doing installing I'm fascinated by the custom creativity with fiberglass and all. What do you think I should cross the JL XR 650 csi over at? I have the X-over on the factory default setting and I believe I have the JL 300/4 cut them off at like 70hz. Also which one of these is essentially the "RULER" I mean the amp or the x-over of do the really work together as a team? I have the stock grills (the ones that came with the JL's and they snap in you can hear them click in but every couple days there lose and I gotta push them back in or they'll fall out. Also should I make like an enclose for the components? In the door or better yet in kick panels(I'd really like a set) but either way do you wanna have a sealed little enclosure for them or just leave the back open like they are in the stock location in the doors? Why wouldn't you put the x-overs in a slide out tray in the dash?....under the carpet in the kick panel they have a chance of getting kicked and smashed and also I cant change them as readily? Just looking for your opinions. Also I dont wanna be rude but where does all your car audio knowledge come from? Just experience or are you certified?

Anthony

[Danmuzicman]

bby is best buy, i was an installer there before i moved up the coprate ladder. adiodan and I both were installers thewre but i havent seen that guy post in forever. q you pretty much said everything so if you have anyother pertinat qs IM me or PM me. have fun and rember measure 2X cut once, and that goes for wiring two, nothing like watching an amp or a head unit going up in smoke.

[Danmuzicman]

oh the the certification is MECP http://www.ce.org/certifications/mecp/default.asp and thats how you can get certified, i am a master installer, or well was, lol

[matts]

my knowledge comes from experience. if you're wanting to be an installer as a profession it'd be worth the money, but if you're wanting to drop $5G on a class just so you can tinker with your own stuff i'd say it's a waste. but it's your money, go with what you want :).

as for the grilles. i've got 5 1/4s in my gf's car and it looks stock....aside from the tweeter. but the midrange is behind the stock grille cover. i was just wondering how you mounted them to be using the cover supplied by JL. unless you had custom built kick panels i dont think you'd notice a real big difference. since a mass produced pair would be facing, in essence, the same way as the ones in your doors. BUT, if you custom built some to angle the speakers toward your ears you would notice a difference.

and about the crossover......they work as a team. but a dedicated electronic crossover is probably 10x better at doing it's job than the built in crossover. think of it like a fuel management system. is the factory one going to do a better job than one that that's it's only job is to manage your fuel/spark system? highly doubtful. i've technically got 3 crossovers on my sub in my truck. the headunit has a built in low pass, then i have a kicker electronic x-over and then i have the one on the amp. are all 3 necessary? no, but then you have infinite adjustability vs. preset x-over points. in emily's car im running a KX3....which is a GREAT x-over. so i guess the "ruler" would be the external electronic x-over, it's going to pick up the slack left behind by the other ones. 70 Hz is still kind low IMO. i've got emily's crossed over at 100 Hz. at 70 your still trying to produce those low notes that makes the speakers work real hard. do you have subs? if you dont then you're gonna want the x-over point a little lower so you can still hear those notes, but if you have a sub i'd let it handle those frequencies.......that's what they're made for. :)

i was just thinking of the slide out drawers being in the way...on top of being hard to make and make look good. with it being behind the carpet it's more camoflauged (sp?) and once you get the settings to where they sound good how many times are you going to adjust it?? im going to say not many. it's not like an equalizer where you can change it from song to song. and i dont thing peoples feet would be a problem really, unless you have some rough passengers lol. people start kicking things that hard in my ride their ass is going to be walking anyway :p.

and fiberglass.......it's like bondo yet it isn't either. it's the same prinicple. but 2 totally different substances IMO. which i've only got a little bit of fiberglass experience. i know people that can work wonders with it.........i'm not one of those, yet anyways :D. i just fiberglassed a flush-mount TV for my trucks glove box. i put a couple thin layers of fiberglass on so it wouldn't have as much give to it and then i used bondo after that. i just think bondo is a little easier to work with, but i guess cause im used to it. anyways, if it's something you want to learn then by all means go for it. im the same way, if i want to learn how to do something i'll go to the moon to learn it.