Where can I get a 3400 tb?

[Beretta]

Cool doings, dude! And with prices like that, it makes no sense to pass up. May as well get the 3400s now, while they're still young. Hopefully the aftermarket will catch up.

[BobGAGT]

Originally posted by Canada
Just got it in after a few minor problems.....pictures are on the way.

It a lil better than the 3100? ;)

[95-GT]

Problems as timing cover, fuel injector harness, oil spout, ac pump and downpipe? lol

[Canada]

Problems....

-Leak behind oil filter adapter, new gasket, $0.69.
-Connection in the VSS managed to get disconnected, respliced.
-Dented fuel filter, leaked, replaced.
-Realinging cradle, BFH.
-Broken cradle bolt, to be fixed.
-Bad control arms, replaced with new, $320. Check yours. I'll bet they are bad.

A few other things here and there.

[BobGAGT]

So how long did it take you to do?

[Canada]

We started late Saturday afternoon...went till around 11:30. Sunday, 12-10. Monday 10-10. Thats not soild....we had a lot of trips to the part store, food runs, and coffee runs. We could of been done a lot sooner given warmer weather, a better garage, and air tools.

Heres pics...
http://www.mindspring.com/~hdethloff...engineinstall/
http://www.berettaspeed.com/images/3400_install_party

[Fat Matt]

Originally posted by 95-GT
Problems as timing cover, fuel injector harness, oil spout, ac pump and downpipe? lol

Timing cover was reused from the 3100......

As was the injector harness...

And oil spout...

And AC pump....

And downpipe (this will change though).

Little bastard pulls nicely though. I think it might actually be as fast or a touch faster than my car from a roll........we'll see if it has enough torque to outgun my MASSIVE gearing advantage.

Now he REALLY needs an ECU flash because that silly 107mph governor comes up even faster now.

[Beretta]

Originally posted by Canada

-Leak behind oil filter adapter, new gasket, $0.69.

Gotta love those little things that put the brakes on a big project. My dealer was all out of them when I needed one, and I had to drive for a couple days with the leak until they got more in.

[achievasc92]

Ok, I'm looking into buying a 94 Achieva SC with the 3100. If I buy it, I'm going to do the 3400 swap. ANyway, I just have a few questions. Who can you sent the ECU to to get re programmed for the new motor? And I've heard the tranny from the 3100 is actually better than the new 3400 tranny, is that true? Thanks. :bigok:

[BobGAGT]

You can go to DHP to get it reprogrammed. I know Kalvin did and that was in Chicago... I don't know where else they are. Oh and yes, the 4t60e can handle a lot more than the 4t45e (which is paired with the 3400... at least in newer Grand Ams).

-Bob

[achievasc92]

one more question, Now will the exhaust manifolds from the 3400 meet up with the downpipe thats already on the car? I read the swap manual but I don't remember anything about that. Thanks.

[Fat Matt]

Originally posted by BobGAGT
You can go to DHP to get it reprogrammed. I know Kalvin did and that was in Chicago...

-Bob

Thats not 100% true.

DHP has been giving Canada the run around and say they will only do 97+ ECU's or somesuch.

Fastchip does an OBDI 3100 reflash for $300 but it's NOT as comprehensive as the work DHP does, and is essentially just a governor delete. Superchip and JET have also advertised 3100 OBDI work before as well........but I'd stay a LONG way away from JET.

[Canada]

DHP did do Kalvins.....thats how I found out about them in the first place....I happened to find Kalvin on 60degreeV6.com.

The 3100 ecu will run a 3400 with no sweat.

You have to use the rear manifold, IF and only if you do NOT want to rebuild your exhaust. If you want to use the higher flowing rear 3400 manifold, then you have to make a new downpipe. The flange is different. I highly recommend doing this.

The 4T60-E is supposedly heavier built transmission....the 4T60-E is rated at 280 ft-lbs, and the 4T45-E is only 205 ft-lbs (Grand Am GT's peak torque). There is also a matter of gearing...and the fact that I don't believe the stock 3100 ecu will run the 45-E. There HAS to be an auxillary transmission cooler installed.

[BobGAGT]

But wouldn't having an aux tranny cooler a GOOD thing? LOL I know the 45 isn't good... but why are they using it then?

-Bob

[BobGAGT]

My tranny temp is never that high either... If that means anything. I am planning on dropping a 3400 swap, and thats the reason for me getting a trans temp gage. Will the tranny run hotter with that engine in? Say my driving habits are driving it hard all the time...